[928uk] Summons and other

[Richard Armstrong]

This is bizarre.
I came back today to make a post about mobile speed traps and find loads 
of posts on cameras.
I passed a camera in the back of a van on the hard shoulder last week on 
the M180 - couldn't tell you exactly what my speed was but it was over 
70. These vans are not well marked and the only indication is a flap in 
the rear door.
Bugger me I have done it again today - on the A4 between Devizes and 
Marlborough. I was so busy looking down the road to make sure the road 
was clear past the truck in front I didn't see the camera until I was 
actually overtaking. The van was in a lay-by on the other side of the 
road.
I assume the cameras are bi-directional Hans? Had I slammed the anchors 
on it could have been dangerous. Should have seen it I know - I saw the 
van in peripheral vision, but not the flap down. I was overtaking, so 
probably accelerating through 60 or 70 so I think I am screwed.
I assume it is a laser device, what distance is the focal length set to?
How do they perform when recording an overtaking vehicle coming towards 
them?
 From having nil points on me licence for bloody years I could be up to 
at least 6 within 2 weeks. These bastards aren't even coppers. They 
should be firebombed. Or at least be painted a very bright orange - that 
is if they are a deterrent and not a revenue collection service.
Very pissed off

Lastly, as I haven't had a summons yet, does the summons have to get to 
me personally in 14 days or just the lease company (wasn't in the 928)?

Richard A


In message <001c01c3df5a$8e369ba0$e84b0352 at pc1>, Hans928 
<hans.shark928 at virgin.net> writes
>Unfortunately they are ONLY guidelines and individual councils can set
>their own levels. Because, in our area, the cameras are operated by a
>council partnership, they can lower the level for prosecution - more money
>I suspect.
> 
>I would, however, add that in my area, any driver, caught for the first time 
>by the mobile cameras, if the speed was not excessively excessive ( ? ) 
>have the option of attending a police run, better driving day. This costs
>them the £60 but there are no points involved.
> 
>The idea being to educate rather than enforce in the less serious cases.
>Personally, I don't really fall out with that idea.
> 
>One chance though - another transgression and the ticket system kicks
>in.
> 
>Rest assured I will keep you all posted of any developments I hear about -
>being independent of the police,means even we don't get to know the
>complete story !
> 
>Hans.
>   
>  Subject: RE: [928uk] Summons
>
>  I thought ACPO were reviewing their guidelines following some potential
>  prosecution from tree huggers?
>   
>  Putting mobile cameras on motorways would be seriously bad news,
>  for some reason motorways seems to have been virtually exempt most
>  normal forms of automated revenue collection / speed cameras except
>  road works and variable limit stretches.  Please keep us informed of
>  'progress' on this.
>   
>  Rupert
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