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Guidelines
We have over 450 participants so we do have some guidelines:-
- Please keep to the topic of the 928 and its immediate area of interest.
- Please dont send messages with big attachments.
- Its ok to advertise 928 related things for sale if its not a commercial advertisement.
- If youre selling a 928 pictures help so please consider advertising on the web site. It works!
- Please be sparing when quoting from a previous message. Subscribers do not want to see messages again and again.
- Please do not send message in UPPER CASE (or"Caps") - they are hard to read and it seems like you are shouting.
- On big topics please feel free not to 'reply-all' but just to reply directly to the person.
- Original person please summarize replies to the list on big topics.
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For more, see Internet Trolls in the Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trolls )
If someone makes a series of posts that offends you, my best advice is to filter posts from that person to the trash. When subscribers do choose to respond, sometimes a thread will feed on itself, and grow out of control. When that happens, our best advice is to filter the entire thread to the trash.
Our spam filters will catch most types of commercial spam, but troll spam is hard for software to spot. The best defense is to withhold from the troll what he or she wants most: A response.
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Here are a couple of examples of content from the mailing list.
To: 928uk
Subject: re:A 928 moment
Good post Richard.
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- If I wanted a pure track day car I wouldn't choose a 928
- If I wanted a good looking super car (& money was no object) I wouldn't choose a 928
- If I wanted a luxury long distance tourer I wouldn't choose a 928 (well I might if I am honest!)
- If I wanted a load lugger I wouldn't choose a 928
- If I wanted a practical and reliable everyday car for under £10k I wouldn't choose a 928
BUT .......... if I wanted all five in one car, can you think of anything else that meets the bill? I've owned a lot of cars over the years but nothing else has guaranteed a smile on my face every time I start her up - even after two and a half years.
Graham
To: 928uk
Subject: A 928 moment
It has not been a good week and very little fun at work with people being made redundant. Wish I didn't have to go in. It is now 8:30 am and I am driving to work using the '28 as I do most days.
I am exiting the North bound A3 at Send to loop and travel A3 southbound. Ahead something looks in the distance like another '28. Close up it turns out to be a black Corvette. Hey he is also looping and having spotted me accelerates away whilst I am delayed at the roundabout. If you don't know it joining the A3 southbound at Send is by a nasty left hander which tightens at the apex - max 40 for normal saloons. The Corvette is trying. Change down to 3rd I'm 100 yards behind. Accelerate the bend - the Corvette can't take it - I have to ease off as I have caught right up to him. Mirror, check over shoulder- A3 has light traffic and there's a big gap.
Initiate launch control. Full throttle stage 2 kick down. Light afterburners.
Drag past a "heavy", into second then third lane giving Corvette quick admiring glance (its a nice looking piece of kit) as the '28 storms past. Immediate throttle back, change gear to D and let the car ease back to "legalish" cruising speed. I don't care whether or not a 928 is faster or slower around a track than some obscure BMW, I know why I own one. When this old lady picks up her skirts she can still RUN!
Somehow the day just significantly improved.
Richard
MR2 February 2007
A white MR2, (an old one) tried to keep up with me along a dual carriage way and a series of roundabouts, and when I slowed down he pulled along my inside and gave me the biggest smile and thumbs up I had ever seen from another driver!
So you see driving a 928 also brings a smile to other peoples faces, not just mine.
Sorry that wasn't a technical question, or asking about oil and insurance, I just wanted to share my experience today.
Mike
89S4 Auto
AOL users on the mail list
We are whitelisted by AOL. Please dont mark 928uk emails as SPAM or AOL will block us again.
Spam and Open Relay Blocking Systems - More background in case it happens again or happens to you
BT's reply - something is happening
An abuse complaint was filed with BT. SORBS was incorrectly listing Static IP addresses as dynamic and ISP's implement automatic email blocking rules based on the output of the SORBS database.
"Thank you for contacting the BT Customer Security Team.
I am sorry to hear of the problems you have experienced whilst trying to send email.
We are currently in discussion with the Blacklist company (Sorbs) and have requested the removal of your Static IP address from their list. Please be aware that once removed, there will be a short delay while companies update their spam filtering software with this new information. I would also like to bring to your attention that Sorbs are a separate company from ourselves and it can take up to 48 hours before removal will take place.
I realise you may be disappointed with my reply, but we have no control over when this is done and I hope therefore, you will understand BT's position."
BT Customer Security Team - 20 Jan 2006
BT intervene with SORBS and unblock the static IP address of my mail server
As you may know 928.org.uk is hosted on a static IP address but its range had been blocked by a site which runs a dynamic address blocking service called SORBS. http://www.dnsbl.au.sorbs.net/
BT have acted and got them to delist this address block because the addresses listed are statically assigned.
This means that those of you who havent received the list email since the 7th January are back.
Sorry for the outage - it was beyond my control.
23 Jan 2006
Background
My server has been on the same IP address for 4 years which appears on my statemented bill as a static IP address for which I pay extra money to BT specfically because you can place a mail server and web server on it and be accountable. It has been routing email all this time to subscribers to the mail list. We are whitelised by AOL and comply with a zero tolerance to spam email policy for example.
SORBS means well I suppose but is based on a flawed concept that groups of IP addresses can be good or bad and to fail to deliver my email based on its incorrect information seems to me to be totally wrong.
SORBS does not appear to allow any right of appeal.
In the UK at least if this was real postal mail then blocking it in this way would probably be illegal.
This took a long time to figure out last time (in November 2004) and started again on January 7th 2006. It stopped on January 23rd 2006 which if 928.org.uk was a business would have been catastrophic.
If you were affected you would not get any indication that something was wrong - you just wouldnt be getting any list email. In these cases all you can do it complain to your ISP that they are interfering with your email by using a DNS block list (SORBS) that is incorrectly blocking static IP addresses.
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